Subject	Side mount vs front mount debate
Posted by	ZisLuv on January 28, 2005 at 4:23 AM
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Message	Having a debate over which is best and why on our local forum. Debate was getting very heated and not much usefull info coming out IMO. I found a post with back to back testing from Z1 of 5 intercoolers including a front mount showing no benefit over the Z1 sidemount intercoolers. Plus there are many other problems associated with a front mount. The response from the other side of the camp, a chap that runs unique auto sports over here says that a front mount is good for 10-20kw (13-26hp) over a sidemount on stock turbos, and that you absolutely must have a frontmount with high horsepower or if you track your car. Would like to get more opinions on the issue. You can see the scrap fight on our local forum here: La-Z-Link Ignore the bitching, but I would like to hear some fresh opinions on both sides.
Follow Ups	Side mount vs front mount debate - ZisLuv 04:23:57 01/28/05 I still dont like the idea - BOOZTD 3 04:27:44 01/28/05 2ND! (n/m) - WhiteOutZ 11:35:01 01/28/05 Re: Side mount vs front mount debate - zx spinner 05:39:52 01/28/05 Debate? What debate? - SeedyROM 05:41:32 01/28/05 Thanks! I love seeing posts like this - BOOZTD 3 05:44:53 01/28/05 Well it's mainly the Z32 I'm talking about - SeedyROM 06:04:12 01/28/05 I see what your saying, but our arguments - BOOZTD 3 06:07:33 01/28/05 Damn Ricer! (n/m) - kryptonite729 08:37:14 01/28/05 I think we ALL have that "Supra wannabe FMIC owns!" friend (n/m) - College Boy 12:39:30 01/28/05 LOL (n/m) - BOOZTD 3 16:42:21 01/28/05 bookmarked. (n/m) - ChazZ 06:00:05 01/28/05 Ugh, it's 4am so forgive the typos (n/m) - SeedyROM 06:06:40 01/28/05 I don't quite agree - aliaZ 07:14:14 01/28/05 Re: I don't quite agree - Enlitened 10:15:29 01/28/05 damn dude - Marshall 10:39:24 01/28/05 2nd, 3rd and 4th. It is not a "fact" it is theory at - AzHeat 10:43:16 01/28/05 You're a master at sounding smart and stating nothing at all - SeedyROM 12:20:45 01/28/05 Talk to Aliaz and Marshall, they are not buying it either - AzHeat 12:46:01 01/28/05 I agree with Seedy about the FMIC's - Marshall 13:00:01 01/28/05 I don't disagree that the SMIC is a better alternative - AzHeat 13:06:17 01/28/05 you sound like a broken record on this topic - fourZero 13:15:18 01/28/05 Sorry, but it's in 2 publications on the Z32 - SeedyROM 11:44:43 01/28/05 And plus sidemounts retain the nice "stock" look. :-) (n/m) - Marshall 11:47:13 01/28/05 That's always a plus =) (n/m) - SeedyROM 11:58:18 01/28/05 Sorry, but that doesn't prove anything - aliaZ 12:30:29 01/28/05 2nd Thank you (n/m) - AzHeat 12:41:52 01/28/05 How is what you're saying any different? - SeedyROM 12:47:58 01/28/05 :) - aliaZ 12:54:35 01/28/05 I hear that =) (n/m) - SeedyROM 13:06:13 01/28/05 you are high - genic 08:15:28 01/28/05 Actually I am. Two Endocet (n/m) - Arturo C. 00:20:25 01/29/05 Interesting- I have a thought about that. - Marshall 10:33:12 01/28/05 I agree completely.... - ZisLuv 11:53:45 01/28/05 It removes a check and balance - Marshall 12:35:39 01/28/05 Here are two parts of an article I also have - SeedyROM 12:17:50 01/28/05 Nice article. What's that from? - Marshall 12:54:45 01/28/05 agreed - aliaZ 13:01:17 01/28/05 That article does not support the argument of exhaust - AzHeat 13:02:26 01/28/05 Two things - SeedyROM 13:09:05 01/28/05 It was listed here the article. I will do search. Not - AzHeat 13:12:26 01/28/05 spot on...god 411, could you post the rest of that artcl? - quikz 13:21:29 01/28/05 I would but it's a 100 page Guide to the 90+ 300ZX - SeedyROM 13:47:04 01/28/05 E-mail me with an AIM SN, I will zip it to you. (n/m) - whitepearlz 14:00:46 01/28/05 I was going to post that last article, too =) That magazine - whitepearlz 13:59:41 01/28/05 I'd like that too please - aliaZ 14:10:07 01/28/05 Please send me the zip as well - Nazgul 14:34:04 01/28/05 I'd like a copy too if you don't mind. (n/m) - Dustin 15:57:48 01/28/05 me too please - Marshall 16:02:19 01/28/05 I'll take a copy. (n/m) - trackstar 17:02:15 01/28/05 Me too please. arturo.c.morales@excite.com (n/m) - Arturo C. 00:19:16 01/29/05 My experience on FMIC's pro/cons - MOTRSPRT--ID 06:33:49 01/28/05 Best intercooler is.......... - 00Evan 08:02:32 01/28/05 Z1's front mount intercooler on russells car is not like - atl300zxtt 08:37:14 01/28/05 Good analogy of 2 SMIC's together. - MOTRSPRT--ID 15:40:01 01/28/05 here is some reading for you - aliaZ 08:02:01 01/28/05 Re: here is some reading for you - scottsi 09:08:26 01/28/05 based on what? (n/m) - Guapo 09:12:50 01/28/05 I just don't know what to say to that. - Toso 11:08:25 01/28/05 LOL silly nubs. (n/m) - ENVYMYZ 12:04:20 01/28/05 Good reading, thanks aliaz - BombSeeker (FL) 09:15:00 01/28/05 Thanks, some very interesting reading. Wonder if I can - ZisLuv 11:44:12 01/28/05 Both bookmarked, thanks. (n/m) - SeedyROM 11:56:59 01/28/05 It's interesting that a shop like SGP says the smallish - YugoBernie (NoVA) 09:04:30 01/28/05 We agree, Z1 SMICs are more than enough for 98% applications (n/m) - Russell@Z1 09:33:13 01/28/05 lol (n/m) - Guapo 09:42:21 01/28/05 that testamony makes me want 2 side mount for my sr20. (n/m) - Halo Z 09:50:03 01/28/05 agree on the greddy or the z1's ... (n/m) - genic 09:51:43 01/28/05 I think he was agreeing SMICs are more than enough - KaZ (VaBch) 11:24:31 01/28/05 on another note - genic 12:01:36 01/28/05 The Greddy's are whats going on my car right now... - 90VG30TT 10:31:38 01/28/05 Kyle ran 10's with the Greddy SMICs. Good enough for me! :) (n/m) - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 11:26:37 01/28/05 I have the Greddys on my car now...the owner - College Boy 12:44:25 01/28/05 do stock ducts bolt onto greddys? (n/m) - SpecNATT (Houston) 19:11:48 01/28/05 Yes with some minor modifications. (n/m) - Arturo C. 00:31:08 01/29/05 Why is this still a debate? - whitepearlz 09:53:30 01/28/05 Re: Why is this still a debate? - Supratt85 10:32:37 01/28/05 Well put. (n/m) - SeedyROM 12:21:38 01/28/05 w3rd - ottyz 14:44:06 01/28/05 Greddy, HKS, or Stillen SMIC? - joshsworld21 10:12:39 01/28/05 Re: Greddy, HKS, or Stillen SMIC? - genic 10:15:01 01/28/05 I like my Stillen, but all of them are great (n/m) - Moxie 10:19:23 01/28/05 Re: Greddy, HKS, or Stillen SMIC? - Russell@Z1 10:30:25 01/28/05 Stillens Are the best of those 3, then Greddy, then HKS. (n/m) - T0M 10:39:35 01/28/05 we agree, Z1 SMICs are not in the same category (n/m) - genic 10:54:11 01/28/05 Why? - Joe(NoVA) 11:24:32 01/28/05 Re: Why? - genic 11:36:06 01/28/05 From your chart it looks like Z1 made more HP than Stillen. (n/m) - Godspeed_racer 12:04:07 01/28/05 Temp drop - Guapo 12:11:50 01/28/05 oh, I would rather have a cooler motor than a couple of hp. (n/m) - Godspeed_racer 12:13:56 01/28/05 not water temps, air temps before and after the IC - Guapo 12:18:54 01/28/05 please tell me if I understand this correctly... - Godspeed_racer 12:31:24 01/28/05 Re: please tell me if I understand this correctly... - Russell@Z1 13:20:02 01/28/05 heat exchange > flow rate - genic 13:26:13 01/28/05 Its not that simple - Russell@Z1 14:10:26 01/28/05 Do the duct play a "signifiacant" role? If so was it used on - Godspeed_racer 14:45:58 01/28/05 Re: Do the duct play a "signifiacant" role? If so was it used on - Russell@Z1 15:21:22 01/28/05 correct... - genic 12:10:27 01/28/05 actually, of all the sidemounts, the UAS sidemount is better - T0M 11:41:45 01/28/05 I thought UAS was just front mount? (n/m) - College Boy 12:46:21 01/28/05 nope, they sell side mounts too (n/m) - aliaZ 13:19:53 01/28/05 go with T0ms FMIC. - Jason300zxTT(NoVA) 10:56:07 01/28/05 Where are Tom's charts you speak of? I have been - AzHeat 11:17:33 01/28/05 I dont have pressure drop comparisons - T0M 11:34:22 01/28/05 Stillen! If you ever hold any of them... - WhiteOutZ 11:37:10 01/28/05 Intercoolers and contraversy - UNIQUE ZED 14:31:40 01/28/05 More info - UNIQUE ZED 14:49:22 01/28/05 lol sorry john - ZisLuv 00:41:57 01/29/05 Yeah right - UNIQUE ZED 18:55:40 01/29/05 Need to explain - UNIQUE ZED 19:08:06 01/29/05 I've got something brewing........ (n/m) - Ash's Z 16:34:53 01/28/05 Tell us? (n/m) - DougZXTT 19:27:05 01/28/05 Moonshine? - Arturo C. 00:39:36 01/29/05
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